Doorstop - Jerrabomberra

KRISTY McBAIN, MINISTER FOR REGIONAL DEVELOPMENT, LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND TERRITORIES: It’s a pleasure today to welcome Minister Jason Clare to Goodstart Jerrabomberra where 90 places a day are filled, and we have a wait list. Jerrabomberra is the heart of the Queanbeyan region, it's fast growing, and this childcare centre is one of many that have benefitted from the Albanese Labor Government's Cheaper Childcare plan.

We know families right across our region have benefitted from this, and it's so great to be able to introduce Minister Clare to the wonderful staff here, the wonderful centre manager and State manager and the wonderful kids that come here each and every day to enjoy this beautiful centre.

JASON CLARE, MINISTER FOR EDUCATION: Thanks very much, Kristy. It's absolutely fantastic to be with you here at Jerrabomberra at the Goodstart Centre here. You are an absolutely fantastic Member of Parliament, and we are so lucky to have as part of the Albanese Labor Government and this community is lucky to have you as their Labor Member.

When we were elected two and a half years ago, childcare costs had sky rocketed, childcare costs under the Liberals went up by 49 per cent over just under a decade, and that was double the OECD average.

We've cut the cost of childcare now for more than a million Australian families. In the first 15 months of our Cheaper Childcare laws this has meant that for an average family on about 120 grand a year combined income with one child in early education or care saved them about 2,700 bucks, and that's real money that's making a real difference for families right across the country.

And when we were elected two and a half years ago childcare workers were leaving the sector in droves, that's the truth of it, and we're now starting to see that turn around. Data that's been released today shows that vacancy rates in the childcare sector are down 22 per cent, and at Goodstart, where we are today, all of their centres across the country, we're seeing job applications now jump by 35 per cent, and expressions of interest jump by 50 to 60 per cent. Vacancy rates at Goodstart Centres are down by a massive 28 per cent.

So that's fantastic news. It shows that when you pay people more, more people want to do the job, and there aren't many jobs that are more important than the work that our early educators do, getting young people ready for school.

If we win the next election, the next big thing that we need to do is build more centres where they don't exist at the moment and help to make sure that more young people get the chance that the children we've met here today get, help young people who can't get into early education and care now, either because there's no centre in their town, or because they can't get access to the subsidy through no fault of their own.

And that's why if we win the next election, we'll set up a $1 billion fund to build more centres in the outer suburbs and in the regions where they don't exist at the moment, and implement a three day guarantee, to guarantee that every child who needs it will get access to three days a week of government supported early education and care.

Why? To make sure that more children are ready to start school, because the evidence is, that if children spend more time in early education and care in centres like this, they're more likely to start school ready to learn.

And just while talking about school, last week the Prime Minister announced that South Australia and Victoria have become the fifth and sixth States to sign up to our public school funding and reform agreement, the Better and Fairer Schools Agreement, that's along with WA, Tassie, ACT, the Northern Territory and of course now South Australia and Victoria.

On the weekend, teachers backed this agreement, on the weekend principals backed this agreement, and now today the Business Council of Australia backed this agreement. This is real funding, to fix the funding of our public schools, and it's not a blank cheque, it's tied to real reform; things like phonics checks in Year 1 and numeracy checks in Year 1 to identify children who might already be falling behind, and then using that funding to make sure that children who do fall behind catch up early, because we know that children who catch up early are more likely to go on and finish high school.

So, it's backed by teachers, backed by principals, backed by the business community. The only people that are against it are Peter Dutton and the Liberal Party, they’re against cutting the cost of childcare for Australian parents, they're against pay rises for childcare workers, they're against building more childcare centres where they don't exist, and they're against fixing the funding of our public schools and tying that funding to evidence based teaching and real reform to help more young children to catch up, keep up and finish high school.

Happy to take some questions.

JOURNALIST: When do you expect that Queensland and New South Wales will sign on to that school agreement?

CLARE: I won't give you a date, but negotiations are going well.

JOURNALIST: Fresh polling is showing that it's really tight. Are your cost-of-living measures cutting through with the voters?

CLARE: We know that Australians are doing it tough, a lot of Australians are doing it tough, that's why creating a million jobs is really important, that's why cutting inflation by more than half is really important, that's why boosting real wages is really important as well.

We're making progress, there's more work to do, but the evidence that came out on the weekend shows that if Peter Dutton had been the Prime Minister of Australia for the last 12 months, Australian families would be over $7,000 worse off.

Why? Well, because he was against the tax cuts that delivered a lot of support for Australian families, he's against cheaper childcare, he's against cutting the cost of medicine, he's against lifting real wages, he's against cutting the cost of people's energy bills through that $300 rebate, and when you add all that up, it means that Aussie families would be thousands and thousands of dollars, $7,200, worse off under Peter Dutton.

JOURNALIST: On the School Agreement, so New South Wales and Queensland you would assume are trying to get more than 25 per cent. Are you open to that?

CLARE: Don't assume that. But I'm not going to negotiate through the media. What's important here is that we fix the funding of our public schools, and we tie that to the sort of reforms that are going to help make sure that more kids that fall behind can catch up and keep up and finish high school.

Private schools, non government schools are funded at the level that David Gonski said they should be at, public schools aren't, and this agreement is about fixing that, but also tying that to real targets and real reforms.

The current agreement doesn't do that. There aren't any real targets, there aren't any real reforms. I want to make sure that we fix the funding of our schools and tie it to the sort of reforms that we know work. I want this money to get results.

At the moment in public schools, over the course of say, you know, the last eight years or so, we've seen the percentage of kids finishing high school drop from 83 per cent to 73 per cent. Just think about that for a second. That's happening at a time where it's more important to finish school than it was when we were little.

We've got to turn that around if we're going to make sure that more people get a chance to go to TAFE and university and get the jobs that are being created today. That's why this funding is important, but that's why the reforms that it's linked to are just as important.

JOURNALIST: The States that signed on to it earlier, are they now pushing for 25 per cent as well, and will you grant that?

CLARE: I've already spoken to those States, and we will offer to them the same deal, which is we'll lift our offer from 20 to 25 if they get rid of that 4 per cent which is usually aligned to things like capital depreciation costs. So, we're having great conversations with states like WA and Tassie.

JOURNALIST: Is there a willingness though to go above 25 per cent for the two states that have paid off, and then does that open up the chance for increased funding for other states?

CLARE: No. That's why when I answered your previous question, I said don't assume that the States are asking for more than 25 per cent. What the states have been asking for, for the last 12 months is that we increase our offer from 20 to 25 per cent, and we said, "Yeah, we'll do that, but we need you to chip in as well".

It's always been my view that the Commonwealth's got to chip in and the states have to chip in as well. That's why we're saying to the states, if we can lift our funding from 20 to 25 per cent, let's get rid of that other 4 per cent, which is used for things like capital depreciation that don't actually go to real funding for schools at the moment.

JOURNALIST: Is the absolute cap 25?

CLARE: Well, again, I'm not going to go into the details of the conversation, but we're not talking beyond 25.

JOURNALIST: How exactly are you going to address high rates of absenteeism due to bullying or mental health issues, do you actually have a stepped plan in place for the next school year?

CLARE: Yep. This is a complicated thing. There is absolutely no place for bullying in our schools. That's why the work that we're doing in putting together a National Bullying Action Plan with the states is so critical, so important; that's why getting rid of mobile phones in schools is so important; that's why the ban on access to social media for young people under the age of 16 is so important as well.

We know fundamentally that children are less likely to be at school if they're suffering from bullying or they're suffering from mental health challenges. And young people with mental health challenges, by the time they're in Year 9 are about a year and a half to two years behind the rest of the class, and less likely to finish school.

And so the sort of things that we want to tie this funding to are early intervention when children are young at primary school to make sure that they keep up and catch up, but also more investment in things like mental health workers and paediatric nursing support in our schools.

That investment in health is not just about health, it has real education outcomes as well.

JOURNALIST: Donald Trump overnight said that   sorry, a couple of days ago said that he proposed "cleaning"   unquote   "cleaning out Gaza and resettling Palestinians". What is the Government's response to that?

CLARE: The Government's position for a very, very long time, I think since December of 2023, has been to call for a ceasefire in Gaza, and we're glad that that has finally happened. We want to see an end to the killing in the Middle East, we want to see trucks come in with food and with medicine and with aid. We want to see the hostages returned.

JOURNALIST: And what about resettling Palestinians though? What is your response directly to that suggestion that they should be moved to Jordan or Egypt?

CLARE: The position of the Australian Government, which I think is still the position of the Opposition as well is that we believe in a two-state solution, two countries living side by side, two peoples living side by side in two nations where people can live in safety and security without having to go through checkpoints or fear that their lives will be taken from them the next day.

JOURNALIST: Just on that language though, you know, "cleaning out", do you think that's triggering language or insensitive language?

CLARE: Repeating my previous answer, we want two peoples able to be live side by side in safety and security.

JOURNALIST: Do you have a set price tag on the number of those professional healthcare workers you want in schools?

CLARE: No, there's no set number, but this investment in South Australia's an extra billion dollars over the next 10 years, in Victoria it's an extra two and a half billion dollars over the next 10 years.

The agreements that we're striking with the states are all going to be slightly different depending on the needs in those states, but it's designed to invest in real practical reforms that we know are going to get the results that we need.

Just to add to what we're talking about here, we're talking about fixing the funding of our public schools. Now one in 10 children at the moment, when they sit for their NAPLAN tests in third grade, are identified as being below the national average, so one in 10   sorry, below the national minimum standard, so one in 10. But amongst children from poor families, from really disadvantaged backgrounds, it's one in three, and most of those children go to public schools.

So our public schools are the places that do the real heavy lifting where the challenge is three times as big, and they're the ones that were underfunded at the moment. We want to fix that funding and tie that funding to help those children to catch up and keep up and finish high school.

JOURNALIST: On that pay rise for early educators, do you know how many centres have used that as an excuse to immediately increase their fees by 4.4 per cent?  

CLARE: Here's the thing, they can't, because a condition of getting the funding for the pay rise is they can't increase their fees by more than 4 per cent.

JOURNALIST: Yeah. That's why I'm asking how many have increased their fees to that 4.4?

CLARE: I suspect that most centres will increase their fees somewhere between zero and up to that 4 per cent over the next 12 months. The key thing is they can't go beyond that, and that's a big part of this deal. Number one, we want to make sure that the money goes to the worker, not the centre, and number two, in order to get that funding, they cannot increase their fees by more than 4 per cent.

JOURNALIST: Do you know how many though have hit that cap?

CLARE: It's too early to give you that number.

JOURNALIST: This billion-dollar strategy for outer suburbs and regional areas, do you have any hotspots, any, you know, regional areas that you're concerned about that don't have enough facilities?

CLARE: You can look at data that shows where there are what's called sometimes "childcare deserts" right across the country. This fund is designed to help to make sure that we build centres where they're needed most, and in particular, if you look at the Productivity Commission report released last year it talks to this, it's the outer suburbs, and it's in Regional Australia.

Just talking to the team at Goodstart here is the only childcare centre in Jerra that provides full service from six week old children right through to four year olds.

JOURNALIST: I did just want to ask you about - there was evidence at a Parliamentary Committee last week about an online meeting of ANU to delete the Nazi salute. The investigation to my understanding is that they found that that wasn't the case. What else do you think was happening there?

CLARE: I make the general point, whether it's at ANU or whether it's at QUT that there is absolutely no place for the poison of antisemitism in our universities or anywhere in this country or anywhere in the world.

There is a commemoration that's just happened of the 80th Anniversary of the Holocaust and Auschwitz. You know, in the lifetime of our grandparents we've all seen the true terror of what antisemitism can wreak and there is no place for it, and that's why I've made it very clear to every university leader in the country that they must enforce their Codes of Conduct, and that includes saying that directly to the Vice Chancellor of QUT.

JOURNALIST: Do you believe though that it was appropriate that an ANU student who went on radio said that terrorist designated organisation, Hamas [indistinct] unconditional support was able to overturn her expulsion on appeal. You've just spoken about the poison of antisemitism; we have a growing issue in Australia. Is that an appropriate thing to do?

CLARE: No.

JOURNALIST: Are we any closer to a governance review   what's the latest with the university governance review?

CLARE: Yeah, last week we announced the members of the panel that will be responsible for implementing that review.

JOURNALIST: Are you confident with the members of that panel?

CLARE: I am.

JOURNALIST: And then I might just Ms McBain something if that's okay.

CLARE: Sure.

JOURNALIST: [Indistinct] would like to see councils auctioning off properties. What do you think of this decision?

McBAIN: Look, every Council has the opportunity to take action when someone doesn't pay rates for a period of time. My understanding, and it was a unanimous decision of Queanbeyan-Palerang Council to take this route, is that these rates have been unpaid for more than five years. A lot of those properties that attempted to make contact by door knocking them, letter boxing them, serving them, there's been no contact made with any of those individuals for a variety of reasons. It is an avenue open to them, but as I said, it's a unanimous decision of Queanbeyan-Palerang Council to take this action, which I'm sure that hasn't been done lightly either.

JOURNALIST: Are you concerned about the financial stability of councils if they are having to resort to methods like this just to try and stay out of debt?

McBAIN: Look, I think when you look at it, it's about a million dollars in unpaid rates that they are going to attempt to recruit through auction. I don't think this goes anywhere near dealing with some of the ongoing issues that councils have, but what we've done since we've been in government, you know, there's been more collaboration with local councils than in any time before that.

I've personally met with over 250 councils either in their communities or in Canberra or at a Local Government Association conference. We have doubled Roads to Recovery funding and that means regional councils across the country have now more money than ever before to deal with road issues.

Across Eden Monaro that's $26.3 million extra for our local councils resulting in over $65 million for roads alone. We've increased road black spot funding, we've created the new safer local road and infrastructure program, $200 million a year, you know, we've been really putting our shoulder to the wheel making a difference for local councils, and just last week I was able to announce $27.2 million for Marulan Sewer Treatment Plant, you know, which is something that Council had called from but hadn't been supported in getting.

So, the Albanese Government takes seriously the priorities of local councils and local communities and we've been delivering for all of them.

JOURNALIST: Thank you.